Evening all,Thank you Trev and Wim,Good to get the compliments,Hoping that by the show times come will have the pukka thing,The good thing about the Bird is that i can use it on a daily basis,Would be inclined to put the real thing on the mantlepiece but they were not made for that,My prob is that once on the seat do not no when to stop perhaps thats not a bad problem though, All the best.